Only in 'Murica would life-saving developments be used to deny people treatment so that some rich cunts can accumulate even more wealth
It’s a broken country, and I can’t wait to see it fall
Anything that can be exploited for profit is fair game here. There’s hardly anything left at this point, so it’s starting to get grizzly
Alright, if you look at this story from a more reputable source (Reuters), it’s quite a bit different. Meta isn’t accused of using AI with people’s medical information to make early diagnoses and lay them off. Instead,
According to the complaint, Meta used a number of internal AI-assisted systems to score and rank employees on a termination list. Those included “Metamate,” a large language model assistant; an employee-trained “second brain” that tracked workers’ communications and documents; and a productivity score drawn from scanning keystrokes, screen content, emails and browser history, according to the lawsuit.
The 26 plaintiffs, who filed the lawsuit anonymously, are accusing Meta of violating federal and state laws that ban discrimination or retaliation against workers who have disabilities, take medical leave or are pregnant. They also claim that Meta failed to test its AI systems for bias in violation of recently adopted California and New York City laws.
So it’s still shitty workplace surveillance and discrimination but not the same kind of surveillance and discrimination alleged in the Twitter posts. Meta is using AI to try to rank workers’ productivity (on a bunch of shitty metrics) in a way that may discriminate against people with disabilities or who take medical leave or who are pregnant.
What a bullshit arguments.
Decl. ¶¶ 19; Doe 4 Decl. ¶¶ 11. The monitoring program—announced internally as the “Model Capability Initiative”—thus captured not only employees’ work output but also their protected-leave and medical activity.
Literally in the court case papers.
source: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.474171/gov.uscourts.cand.474171.1.0.pdfYou will now say this is not true ? You’re AI enthusiast, Meta employee or something ?
I literally said that Meta was firing people for protected leave, disabilities, and medical issues. What I was denying is that they were firing people on the basis of “pre-diagnoses.” All the complaints in the lawsuit are based on diagnoses that employees disclosed to Meta. I think that’s shitty and illegal, but I don’t think there is evidence that Meta is acquiring undisclosed medical information about their employees and using that for layoffs.
Reuters is not a reputable source. And it’s the same headline
Meta isn’t accused of using AI with people’s medical information to make early diagnoses and lay them off. Instead,
Because Meta doesn’t have access to their medical info yet. They would 100% do so if they ever managed to get their hands on this info. Big corporations can’t wait to go full Aktion T4 mode.
I always heard Reuters is very reputable. Can you share some evidence that shows why you think it isn’t?
They’re on lemmy.ml. I’m sure they have some insane tankie reasoning
Your server is banning people for celebrating the death of Lindsey Graham it’s kind of incredible you’re claiming people are insane to not be on it.
Here’s a recent flagrant one https://lemmy.ml/post/48321919
So did they look at weird boobie pictures to decide to fire female employees or nah?
They would if they could. That’s the point.
They’re already using AI to detect medical conditions to fire people on.
Capitalism will eventually look at your weird boobie pictures and fire you for them if you Capitalism long enough.
Probably any system that is managed too efficiently starts to suck.
This is really an interesting example. Not sure if one should blame AI or capitalism for this. Kinda reminds me of Gattaca.
Theoretically capitalism could do this manually to optimize for profit, but there are limits. You can only hire so many completely psychotic human resources employees until very weird and bad shit starts to happen and your company is sucked straight into a hellmouth. But an AI robot is completely objective, unemotional, unbiased, beautifully soulless and can surely maximize profit endlessly with no pesky human side effects. Obviously it can’t but that is the dream.
Capitalism exists to serve, you guessed it, capital.
This means those who have money will be served and those who don’t have money will not.
Big banks who have money are getting bailouts and poor people have their social security removed.
Large companies have their needs fulfilled and those who don’t have money are not.
The better question is why does their employer have access to their private medical data
My understanding is that this isn’t what happened.
Meta laid off a bunch of employees. Meta claims they used an AI to gauge employees’ productivity as a basis for who they laid off. The employees are accusing Meta of laying off employees who took too much medical leave.
That is more plausible, though still discriminatory
Depends. If employees lost productivity due to medical leave, then it makes sense. It’s one of the biggest parts of why women in the US (and around the world) are generally paid less, because they have children and are often out of the workforce for a period of time, ie lack of productivity.
Even in countries that allow for parental leave for both parents, you see couples still doing work arounds to keep at least one parent (often the male) in the workforce so they don’t lose out on their career path.
Same thing has happened to say millenials with the 2008 financial crisis. They lost productivity and were stunted in their career paths due to it, and the same thing is/has happened due to COVID.
I get that this might not be your opinion, so this isn’t intended as an attack, but damn it’s a messed up way to frame things. How dare humans follow their biological calling and build families instead of “being productive” for a boss!
And it’s all the more reason to make parental leave universal for all parents, regardless of gender. Women wouldn’t be discriminated in the work force, and fathers could bond with their kids during a crucial part of their lives
This sounds American.
Fuck yeah
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Funny that this isnt even “AI”. This is image and pattern recognition software that’s been used in medicine for years and years. The AI part is that it’s scraping all your medical data together into a single RAG so they can use it to fuck you over as efficiently as possible in the name of making more money.
In general people don’t really hate AI itself but the absolute shitcocks in charge of it and their methods of using it.
It’s still machine learning
This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. A future world where your path in life is heavily influenced based on your genes.
Unlike our noble society of today where people are not judged based on looks, intelligence, strength or people skills.
Sounds like zuck needs to have irreversible health issues~
“Our most pessimistic theories were not bad enough”
Oh thank god I live in a country with universal Healthcare and not in some dystopian syndicalist hellhole. This scenario is unthinkable where I live, AI in medicine is seen here as useful …
Unthinkable for the immediate future.
These days, even that seems more like a failure of imagination than an accurate prediction of the future :(
Lives that can be saved via early treatments, instead used to profile people based on their health conditions, disabilities and other factors ismorbidly sickening, We truly do think that Neural Learning Model can be a strong tool as a data sorting algorithm in health and science, but cannot give us answers itself, only point out things we can’t see
The technology is actually kind of great it’s just that evil people are using it to do evil things it feels like.
Allways this, better than “Fuck AI” is “Fuck AI from big corps” (and big greedy corps too)
“Your money or your life.”
By writing all these theories on the net before they come true we are giving them ideas 💡
True unfortunately, but I also have zero sympathy for Meta people.
What’s next, cry over Palantir or ICE scumbags losing their job?
