• gmtom@lemmy.world
    91·
    6 days ago

    I might get hate for this, but you can still consent when you’re drunk, so long as you’re not like barely conscious drunk or you’re not being manipulated coerced by someone.

    • humorlessrepost@lemmy.worldEnglish
      101·
      6 days ago

      Yeah, as an alcoholic, I don’t think every sexual encounter I’ve had in the past decade or more was mutual rape.

  • janewaydidnothingwrong@lemmy.world
    61·
    7 days ago

    I feel like you’re allowed to hesistate and still say a “yes” yes, especially since the “threatened and then said yes” is separate on this. It can be complicated and thought over first, no?

  • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    6 days ago

    Gonna disagree with the dead one. Being dead isn’t consent.

    Did no one else notice that snuck in?

  • Tiral@lemmy.world
    34·
    7 days ago

    I’d have to disagree with this. My wife has definitely banged me when I was asleep and or drunk. She didn’t ask, but it was yes from me if she did.

    I don’t think you should use a generic chart as a guide, it isn’t always that simple, because people aren’t that simple. It’s also not very helpful, people who have morals already know this. The other people know this, they just don’t give a shit, it isn’t they don’t understand. There’s a big difference.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    10·
    7 days ago

    Pfft, a simple “Yes” is not exactly enthusiastic consent. I need enthusiastic consent before I even send the first message.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 days ago

      But only if the person has consented to it during their life. Some people are now arranging things, so that necrophiles can have one happy moment in their life at least “the proper way”, some allegedly going even further and letting their bodies to be preserved for sex purposes. While it makes me go “eww”, at least it’s not something like parents letting pedophiles to rape their kids, not the animal stuff, etc…

  • kn33@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    7 days ago

    Okay, but the line about “bribed” doesn’t sit right with me. We doing SWERF stuff now?

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 days ago

      Depends on. If it’s someone who actually wants to do it, then it’s not a bribe. However if someone doesn’t want to be a sex worker gets money (or workplace promotion, toys, candies) offered for sex does constitute as bribing.

    • evidences@lemmy.world
      6·
      7 days ago

      Bribes are given as a form of coercion, if it’s legit sex work than no bribe is given and both parties are consenting. Just giving someone money or good in trade for a service isn’t a bribe.

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      7 days ago

      I used to go to church at this cult and people are weird. There was this kid there (he’s okay now but like, we all grow up a little twisted) who was always making jokes about putting peanut butter on his nethers and having his dog lick it off. One day someone must have reported the jokes and that was the last time (thank gods) we heard them, despite months of telling him that was fucked up.

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 days ago

      Some people think animals can consent, it’s just “non-verbal”. Best you can get is sometimes you’ll have to restrain (or drug) an animal in heat less. In reality, that’s like if pedophilia was okay if the child was teen and extremely horny, in reality teens are more often targeted than pre-pubescent kids, and they also groomed with sexual and/or romantic favors.