Just sat through a disheartening video from my former drum-teachers at Drumeo, about how AI is inevitable and that musicians that don’t use AI will be left behind, comparing it to when tractors came to farming… wtf?
Brandon is also a religious whacko
I found that hugely disappointing
Guess I’ll unsubscribe. 👍 Thanks!
What was their reasoning? In what ways would “ai” (which is LLM at the moment) help musicians and especially drummers?
I can’t think of a way LLMs could improve musicians.
One example that the owner used was: (from memory not direct quote) lets say someone liked our piano teacher, but the piano teacher doesn’t do jazz, we could then make an AI generated video with her teaching jazz-piano, assuming she would be ok with it (as he looks over his shoulder to an visible uncomfortable piano teacher).
They where quick to say that so far they haven’t used any AI-generated music or lessons, but they clearly see it as a possibility in the future, to “keep up”.Ok, so music education specifically… Sadly I can see that.
How to just play instruments and general basic features of genres… I could see generative AI able to do things on that front. Most notably ability to analyze your performance and identify gaps. Basic rote stuff without need for creativity or soul. The same stuff that countless musicians have already done. I don’t think there is a need to genAI up pre-recorded, non interactive lessons, but I could buy interactive AI experience as being feasible and competitive.
At least in theory, though I see that video of someone asking for feedback on their music and it’s just literal random farting and the AI was still quite complimentary. But Iif someone told me someone curated a more specialized GenAI experienced that worked better in the context… I would at least believe in the feasibility.
If people stop thinking, the people who own the ais will be in charge of what they thinK and what they can do.
Bad news, if AI causes musicians to be denied a livelihood, it doesn’t matter if the musician adopts AI or not.
The mechanism for this would be that random slop generator is valued as highly as human written/performed music, and no amount of using AI will keep the musician “ahead” of the curve.
If the good musician uses AI with the same care taken for their own music, it probably won’t speed up the creative process.
Depressingly, I’ve seen enough slop released as “music” that I can believe the music economy has been terribly diluted by AI, but adopting AI won’t fix the problem for the musician that already has the skills to not need AI.
Huh? Any more context than that? (Or a vidlink?) . Where does the idiotic AI bubble overlap with drumming according to these genius practitioners and soothsayers?
I have a whole lot I’d like to say here but I’ll hold off until there’s more info.
Until then , don’t stop drumming.
The video is only available to members on their site, so I no longer have access to it.
The video started out with a “sad” story about someone who posted some SUNO crap and got flack for it, and then went on about how people who didn’t embrace new technology would be left behind.
Full disclosure… I did not watch the video to the end, I generally try to keep cool and not get too emotional about things, but this had my blood boiling.
I use Moises to pull out drum tracks so I can play along to my fav songs or try them with a drum part I think is better. That’s it for AI in music, though.
Apart from that I use AI to help catalogue recordings, keep my audio production disk well-maintained, and assist with troubleshooting things like latency spikes or excessive noise when all the usual obvious things don’t work. It’s all about more time making music and less time fucking around with shit.
Were they referring to this sort of stuff? Or were they actually talking about letting AI be involved in the creative process? There’s a big difference.
Do you feel safe uploading your own work to an AI? That’s like asking a wolf to guard your sheep, IMO.
I have not seen any obvious use of AI in music-production… yet, but the way Jared spoke about it made me feel uncomfortable sharing my own music on their site, I don’t want my music to help train AI.
Drumeo are threatening you with being “ left behind” if you don’t upload your own recordings to their platform? And it has something to do with so called ‘AI’ I smell a scam.
I’d be very interested in reading their license terms on whatever this is. For a laugh.
I respect your instincts not trusting this. I never used drumeo because I’m old (mainly). If you found use in it, then it must be disappointing and a real loss of trust to whatever degree there was any.
Sounds like youve already unsubscribed so you get the last laugh. GG . Again, keep drumming.
To be fair, nobody is telling me to upload my own recordings, but an important part of Drumeo is the evaluation, and to be evaluated, you have to upload something, and the things I mostly want evaluated is how I play our own music.
As for their license, this one stood out for me:
“By submitting the User Information, you hereby grant Musora a royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive worldwide license to use, reproduce, adapt, modify, create derivative works from, sub-license, transmit, distribute, publish, publicly perform, display or otherwise exploit any or all portions of such User Information in any manner and media and by means of any technology now known or hereinafter developed. In addition, you hereby waive all moral rights in and to such User Information.”They show such restraint! They don’t even attempt to claim any of your children, let alone your firstborn!
Do you feel safe uploading your own work to an AI?
I’ll let you know if I ever do?
