

But we will continue to lie about stopping selling weapons to Israel, we will buy genocide tested weapons from Israel and we will continue to have normal trade relation with ir


But we will continue to lie about stopping selling weapons to Israel, we will buy genocide tested weapons from Israel and we will continue to have normal trade relation with ir


69 per cent said they had been called genocidal because they self-identified as Jewish, Israeli or Zionist.
If you are a zionist , you are genocidal. That’s not antisemetism


Obama, Biden, Trump it’s all the same Capitalist Kabal
I mean yes they are. You don’t need to be a china cultist to know it
Don’t vote, just let Trump destroy America so a Socialist Vanguard will take over. Down with dems… Ect…
Or hold democrats and republicans accountable and avoid the catastrophe you fear


Biden and Xi were meeting, talking, there’s several videos of these meetings. Both sides agreed they were on good terms and this whole sanction and blacklist wasn’t the focus of communications/relations.
All an act


So? Human right orgs do not report every single individual case


Spain and Turkey should send warships to allow flotillas to pass. Unfortunately, Turkey does not care and, despite all the genuine support by Spain, it is not courageous enough to go this far.


Why not everybody
I do not dispute or ignore this
The narrative that hamas was created simply to oppose the “secular” plo don’t work because Hamas collaborate with non Islamists .
In trying to undermine their opponent Israel helped create a new one that was more violent and aggressive. It initially looks as though this was a mistake by Israel but it was the subtext for the subsequent genocide in Gaza.
Israel can make mistakes. Israel did not expect Hamas to become as strong and didn’t expect a revolution in Iran, making Iran the main backer of all major resistance groups toward Israel. As a settler-colonial power, the only choice is for resistance groups to be more violent and aggressive, but without retaliating on innocent civilians. The peaceful way was already tried. The situation in the West Bank is another failure of the peaceful method.
Without Hamas, Israel wouldn’t have been forced to remove the settlers and rely on external occupation to avoid casualties.
You give people too much credit, the evidence all around us including but not limited to what is happening in Gaza should be proof of this. Mass media indoctrination of islamophobia over the last 30 years has achieved its goal of manufacturing the consent required to dehumanise Muslim people in the Middle East.
Islamophobia is the hate of Islam, not only Islamists, so Islamophobic people would still not support Palestine when the PLO is also majoritarily Muslim. Having non-Muslim resistance groups as the most powerful groups will never happen.
If people understood there would never have been a genocide in Gaza.
Wrong. If no countries had recognized and built relations with Israel after the Nakba, the genocide would never have happened.
Before Hamas even existed, the Western countries’ populations were more supportive of Israel than Palestine. Imagine saying “I support Israel” just after the Nakba, where 850,000 Palestinians were ethnically cleansed, including 50,000 Christians.
You don’t seem to understand that Hamas can be both an indigenous resistance group retaliating against Israel and financed by Israel in its early years as a religious counterbalance to the secular PLO.
I understand that hamas is an islamist group that have an different ideology to plo. What you are ignoring is that despite that Hamas colaborate with non islamist groups. The problem is that your argument is used to deligetimize Hamas as a resistsnce group.
You also don’t seem to understand how it is beneficial to Israel to be fighting a group like Hamas over the PLO in how Israel presents this conflict to the media and the world. Israel can point at Hamas and say “look at these Muslim extremists, you can’t negotiate with them. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, looks what Hamas do to women and gays! This war is to do with religion, the Muslims always want to destroy the Jews.” This narrative was not possible against the PLO, if you can’t see how this situation favours Israel when selling the story to the Western audiences and how Israel much prefers it this way you are hopelessly myopic.
Yes, I don’t understand. Before hamas. Israel was talking about how the plo is a terrrorist group blowing up israelis . Nothing changed. They will always find an excuse and someone to blame .
But most people are not dumb. They undwrstand settler colonialism is one of the worst thing ever , worse than religious extremists. They know that torturing people, raping people, stealing their homes is bad. Rhey understand that an occupied population can’t be worse than an occupier
Mujama al-Islamiya and hamas are two different organizations funded by the same person. There is no evidence that the funds dedicated to Mujama was used for hamas. Israel also financed secular groups like Village Leagues.
The fact is that certian cunning people want you to believe that Hamas is not a resistance group that retaliate for israel colonial policies and war crimes. They want you to believe it is a simple tool for Israel. You are falling into israel game. I want the plo to back to it’s root as a real liberation . Israel has been breaching the oslo accords for decades. Doing slow genocide in the west bank
The point of saying it is to show that Israel funded a group of religious extremists to destroy Yasser Arafat’s PLOs progress towards peace and a two state solution.
Israel did not fund Hamas. Qatar send funds to the Hamas goverment. Israel allowed the fund to pass just like they allow fund and goods to pass in the west bank.
The statement make it looks like Hamas had no legitimate concerns about the oslo accords. They was proves to be right. During the talks israel increased settlements. Rabin did not agree to a full independent palestinians state with all it’s rights and all the territories sized in 67. Rsbin used the term less than a state. The intention is exactly what is currently implemented in the west bank
By not fully recognizing Hamas winning the election Fatah part of the plo fell for it. Both hamas and the plo also dhare the same responsability for the violence between them
Israel found it difficult to demonise the secular PLO to Western audiences.
It was never difficult for israel to demonize the plo and the plo far less secular than you think
The PLO didn’t fall for anything either, they called out Israel’s actions at the time but had little power to actually do anything about it as they didn’t control the media narrative. This is still irrelevant to whether or not the argument is in good faith or not.
Isrsel never stopped stealing more land , arming and defending settlers with the PA collaboration.
What is irelevant is the narative that hamas is only israel’s tool. Thr relevant part is that the PA is collaborating with Israel knowing very well. At some point israel could annex the west bank
There is nothing than enter and exit palestine without Israel approval. For weird reason, allow funds to enter gaza makes hamas an israeli tool but doing the same thing to the PA doesn’t.
Fatah refused to accept hamas winning the election in Gaza. The PA is currently doing nothing about the settlers but act like a second security force for Israel while despite hamas attrocities , they are the one responding to israel expending colonies, to the torture and raping on palestinians prisoners and west bankers
Edit : I would also known what the point exactly of saying israel used Hamas to sabotage the PLO. How can it be used to help palestinians today. If it was a good faith argument , people would mention that the plo fall for it
Fake palestinians supporters downvoting this


Ukraine joined the sanctions on Iran in 2007 for the civilian nuclear program . Sanctions indirectly kill people. Zelensky want to save isrsel and the usa who do not only want to end the ergime but also commit gaza line genocide
Translation : israeli terrorists will have access ro muslim sites to attack muslims worshippers