Haha touché. Maybe I should have added that he is a conspiracy theorist (of the Reichsbürger kind)

I had an argument with my uncle once. In Germany, there is “Pfand” on bottles and soda cans. You pay a little extra when you buy one and when you return it to the “Pfandautomat” you get back the extra amount. He was arguing that this is somehow indoctrination by the state to condition us to follow rules. I have avoided conversations with him since