I can do both. I can vote and I can be violent.
You can’t fight against capitalism with violence, this cause only more violence and suffering. Because the elite has all the force and weapons, apart to turn with it the oligarchs in martyrs, justifying more oppression. You can use votes, demonstrations, strikes. boycotts, sabotage. education and intelligence to fight the system, using it’s flaws against it.
“You can’t possibly fight the system, the elites have all the force and weapons! They’ll probably let you vote them out though idk…”
You can’t fight against capitalism with violence,
Historically the only way you can fight against capitalism is with violence. There has never been a case in its entire ~400 year history where its relinquished power to socialist alternatives without violence.
You can only fight capitalism using violence. This cause non-violent acts are turned into merchandises. The profits made on red t-shirt with Che Guevara’s picture are profits. Votes, demonstrations, strikes only have value if they come with a demonstration of capacity of violence.
Which right was given by the imperialists without a fight or their fear of a fight?
Even social democrates use this. They make the richests affraid of a communist revolution to make them accept to give back a little bit of that they have stolen to workers. But they don’t do that to reduce violence, they try to balance the threats to make their living out of them.
Violence to force imperialists to renounce to their priviledges is unavoidable. The level of violence it will needs only depends on them. And they can’t coexist with a non-violent society, since their way of living is to exploit others (which is a constant violence).
We have all the numbers.
“Sure the game is rigged and the stack of bottles is glued together, but we just have to throw the ball really hard.”
“Fascism? I’m totally fine with it” -conservatives
“Fascism? Well… As long as the other guy is 1% more fascist I’m totally fine with it” -liberals
Is that charlie kirk
2A defenders have been real quiet ever since the surge in ICE shootings
Oh, that’s absolutely true !!! lol
Ah yes, more “don’t bother voting” propaganda.
The message should be “you need to do more than just vote”
Do radlibs have a MLM scheme where they get commission for getting people to vote for their cult leaders?
(I mean that would explain why they’re so desparate that they even try to shill voting to their worst enemies, the anti-imperialists)
the opposite. Checks are written when the rich and genociders get the voters to vote like they want. By comparison, No one gets paid when we all choose to do the decent thing instead.
Why would they pay off the voters when they can just pay off the lawmakers? Way cheaper.
Not voting for genocide does more good than any amount of volunteer work within the democratic party could ever do.
Ah yes, more “don’t bother voting” propaganda.
the heart of the issue seems to be the legitimacy that voting gives to a system – participate if you chose do, just do so w the awareness of the fact your participation was more beneficial to the status quo than it was to you.
and, yes, you do need to do more than just vote; but if you lack an understanding of why your increased participate is now necessary you’ll be treading water at best – like the democrats.
there have been people who’ve been in this situation before and wrote down what they did with the benefit hindsight included – if you look at their stuff you’ll find out what you need to do beyond voting.
Pushing “don’t even bother trying” is just supporting the fascists.
Both parties are fascist
If you hear “voting for the polite fascists is not really better than voting for the loud ones” and take that as “don’t even bother trying”, then you really may as well not bother trying, bcs nothing you were trying was ever going to help, and most of it will just strengthen the fascists.
Please point to the part of the meme / title that encouraged voting for anyone let alone anything else. This is just disenpowerment and pushes the narrative that it’s hopeless to try anything at all under the guise of “liberals bad” (which I don’t necessarily disagree with, but this is training people to give up entirely)
Learn to read
So you really did hear “voting for the polite fascists is not really better than voting for the loud ones” and take that as “don’t even bother trying”.
You, specifically, should absolutely give up and don’t bother trying.
So your all proposing we purge every other year. Thats your best idea
“Hey we need to build proletarian organizations to channel political energy in a non-dead end direction”
You:
Thats not what was said. Anymore strawmen
I will hunt you for sport
It’s a lot closer to what you said than this:
So your all proposing we purge every other year
is to what anyone said.
Uhh its posted in this very thread.
Incredible bit to talk about “strawmanning” when you wrote this
So your all proposing we purge every other year. Thats your best idea
Give your nose a honk and tell me what you hear
I read this… a lot
You’re literally sending me a link to the very same strawman
If you actually thought this the only time you would give this response is when voting was actually occurring.
