• Photonic@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Our sanctions and the self-sanctioning by companies themselves are draining Russia’s economy and thus draining the Kremlin’s war machine.

    Ursula von der Leyen, 2022

    This sounds like more of the same.

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      6 days ago

      WTF? Sanctions have absolutely been part of reaching the point we’re at now.
      Other comments by you have been misguided, but this is way way out there.

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        6 days ago

        Yeah no shit Sherlock. The point is that many people have claimed it was close for years and this is just more of the same.

        There is nothing “misguided” about my comment. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. You don’t hold the truth.

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            Early in the war, the broad consensus was that the new sanctions would devastate the Russian economy. By some metrics, though, Russia’s economy has proved resilient to date.

            From the US government

            Following Russia’s full-fledged invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Western countries imposed unprecedented economic sanctions. Yet there is limited evidence that these measures have inflicted substantial economic pain on Russia, as the recent slowdown has largely reflected factors unrelated to sanctions.

            From the ESCP geopolitics institute

            And you still haven’t answered my question. What facts? Just your shitty misinformed opinion.

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      6 days ago

      It’s an enormous country with an abundance of natural resources. It was always going to take a fair amount of time before they got desperate. Now they are, and it’s not going well, hence the endless missile and drone barrage.

      They lost their momentum on the ground a while back, and now they’re reduced to holding what they can and hope they can break the Ukrainian morale with civilian casualties. There’s nothing new there. They’re using the same tactics they used in Chechnya all over again. The only difference is the weaponry used.

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          I live about an hour from the Russian border. I know people on the other side. I can read Russian well enough to follow their news since we’re probably fairly high up on the list of targets if this goes really wrong. Not that that would end well for Russia, but they’re not exactly behaving rationally atm.

          I know what it really looks like inside Russia. Can you claim the same, or do you just like to spread misinformation?

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                5 days ago

                Maybe look up the phrase someone is using, in this case “you don’t have to tell me” before you start to make accusations.

                And do you really want me to answer whether I like to spread misinformation?

                Yeah, no :)

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                  5 days ago

                  In that case, do you want to disclose where you’re getting your information from?

                  I’m asking because it really does look like you’re simply trying to push your opinions as fact.

                  Do you understand Russian? Can you read it? Do you know anyone inside Russia?

                  Edit; For the record, I’ve lost three good friends in Ukraine so far, and a fourth is missing, so I assume she’s gone as well. Do you have any idea what’s really going on in this war?

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                    5 days ago

                    The only thing I stated as a fact is they’re ramping up ballistic missile attacks, which is data from the CSIS, a source I have already provided a few times in this thread.

                    The other things I said are “I will believe it when I see it”

                    And “this sounds like”

                    Which is clearly a phrase to voice an opinion. Now THAT is a fact.

                    And why would I need to understand Russian? All Russia is sending out is disnformation.

                    What makes you think I don’t understand what’s going on in this war. Please use direct quotes from my comment where I have claimed things as fact that are untrue.