IMHO the question depends on :

• who you are (boring, rando, political dissident, journalist, etc)
• who you talk to (family, friends, work, etc)
• what alternatives actually exist

So… sure Signal is not perfect but if you can’t convince your family members to move to DeltaChat it sure beats using WhatsApp, Telegram, etc.

I’ll simplify for the downvotes : “a De-Googled OS […] cannot compromise […] Google Maps”

"considering setting up a De-Googled OS as well, but there are a few things that I cannot compromise on:

• Google Maps"

Sorry but … is this a joke?

OK. I’ll just claim French privacy law is better than GDPR then. If you ask I’ll just point you to French law. If you tell me that doesn’t help I’ll call you a troll.

I mean honestly if that’s how you interact with people I’d rather just block you, I don’t need more noise in my life. Take care.

How is asking to justify a position trolling? You are the one who claimed that Danish law is better than GDPR. I didn’t claim you lie or that law elsewhere was better, I solely asked for the proof. It’s not because I mistrust you, I just want to learn and you saying it is so without an actual comparison is not enough. If you don’t want to help that’s perfectly OK you can just say so. It’s fine to say you prefer Danish product because they are better and refuse to give proof that it’s the case. It won’t help me nor others though.

It’s the Privacy community on Lemmy, I bet others would love to learn too.

Bought a 2nd-hand Pixel 8 to put GrapheneOS on it, not sure if that counts. Feels old, more ecological, cheaper and more private. Not sure how repairable it is but in theory I can use it for up 7 years so hopefully by the time I need to repair it I wouldn’t even want to.

Thanks, skimmed through https://www.recordinglaw.com/world-laws/world-data-privacy-laws/denmark-data-privacy-laws/ but it’s quite difficult to do a “diff” between one and the other. From reading it I didn’t notice significantly better for my normal usage but I’m not a lawyer. It also makes me wonder, if you have done it, how do you know it’s not better than say another random EU country also national specific modifications, e.g. Slovenia? Is there any “benchmark” somewhere that identifies which national changes are better?

Which Danish laws go beyond GDPR?

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I think the “trap” is to believe “we” can “win” once and for all.

Under capitalism (and I’m not suggesting there are better systems, only highlight a core mechanism) there will always be competition to capture value, both customers and lawmakers who (should) protect them.

There are countless examples but one of the most obvious on that topic if Microsoft itself with it’s sadly now classic EEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish of which we can admire the comtemporary version with Github. Initially Github was acquired and no changed, nowadays a lot of basic functionalities, e.g. search within a repository are locked behind a login, there are more and more advertisements for Microsoft other products, e.g. CoPilot. That last product itself is questioning the foundation of free software and open source with its license washing process making unclear who did what, breaking provenance, etc.

The same happened with Google acquiring Android but not locking it down more and more.

The list could grow longer and longer, overall the point is to showcase a pattern : nothing is just “let” alone to grow on its own. It’s gradually captured and enshittified until there is nothing left but the name of a project because corporations exist only to extract more money. There is no moral, only an imperative for profit or their death.

So… unfortunately we WILL have to keep on both building AND protecting what’s been built so far with newer and more powerful threats. Microsoft, Google, and all large corporations who advertise themselves as allies of free software and open source MUST be judge on what they actually do, not on what they claim.

We have to push back and we will always have to. This year and the next.

Makes me curious, I assume within the EU with GDPR it would be roughly equivalent.

What’s the difference between EU countries then and why?