Maybe not the right discussion for the shit post community

That’s unrealistic. In the grant scheme of things Lemmy is small. There’s not enough activity for bigger criminal activity to occur here yet. Generally, there’s a bunch of three letter agencies who could probably get search warrants or permission to go after instance owners, but they’d need to be aware of Lemmy and they’d need a good enough reason to convince a judge. It’ll be a while until then. Maybe on mastodon first, we’ll see but that’s all speculation.

And should we be concerned? Maybe about those 3 letter agencies, but not about platforms like these, and most definitely not about Lemmy instances.

As long as we keep defederating from actually scary ones with csam on there, we’re more than good.

Also if this is a rhetoric question with a strong insinuation to get angry at lemmy.world then get bent, I like my Lemmy instances drama-free, thank you.

Looks like not only the type of sabotage is genuinely smart, but also dropping those papers means the government is now entrenched in distrust and that’s an uncomfortable position to be in.

First of all, not a shit post.

People only hate the pedos they dislike.

Disagree. You mentioned MJ and Epstein. There is a huge amount of victims, witnesses, monetary transactions and evidence (e.g. pictures) about Epstein being a pedophile. For MJ being a pedophile there’s only a fraction of that.

I personally do not care for MJ. People like his music but I don’t really. It’s easier for me to see Epstein as a pedophile because there is just so much more corroborating evidence, and way harder to see MJ that way. Do I believe he’s not? Not really, I haven’t looked that deep into it and I heard this before a few times. But I’m not say someone is a pedophile without evidence. If they’re wrongly accused, that’s fucked up. And ultimately, he’s dead and there’s no real evidence and no suggestions he was part of a wider circle of other perpetrators.

On the other hand Epstein is dead, but there’s other people who helped him or committed crimes themselves. So we should concentrate on those, so that the victims get justice and the perpetrators which do still live get tried and convicted. And especially make sure ghislaine Maxwell, who is convicted and got an insane deal has to face more consequences and finally gives up names so we can start demanding trials for all of the others involved.

Basically, it’s never a “I hate Epstein but not MJ” thing, it’s just that we can address whatever Epstein did, and that is important and there’s lots to go on, but we kinda can’t do it with MJ unless there’s more evidence, there’s likely more perpetrators or there’s more victims coming forward, and I haven’t heard any of that.