Funny how, as soon as an alternative is suggested, it has to solve everything immediately, but voting for genociders does not hold the same requirement.
Im sorry, did the genocide end?
We went from democrats covering their ears at the sound of protesters for Palestine, the democratic nominee yelling “I am speaking” against protesters, the democratic president siccing cops on peaceful protesters, to democrats having to at least pretend like they give a shit, if not outright actually give a shit. Receiving money from AIPAC is now a black mark, supporting Israel is one likewise in most areas. This would not have happened without Kamala losing. Your position seems to be “I’m sorry if the problem isn’t immediately solved by doing one thing, then what does it matter?” which is very fitting for someone who puts all their faith into voting, I suppose.
We are far closer to the genocide ending than we ever were under Biden. There is far more popular and international resistance towards Israel. This would not have happened if the democrats just got to keep on truckin’
One could ask the reverse however. Your side argues for the democrats as “harm reduction”, so lets look at the reduced harm we’ve gotten for voting for the “lesser evil” over the decades:
Roe v Wade overturned
Democrats support genocide
More money for the military
More wars
More money for cops
More surveillance
Still making the environment worse and worse
Still letting infrastructure fall apart, giving a good section of an already insufficient bill to military projects
Queer people thrown under the bus
BLM completely sidelined
The party tries to push out any and every “progressive” it can
No universal healthcare
Every election is between democrats (fascists) and fascists, and we have to vote for the democrats (fascists) otherwise democracy dies!
The fascists win the popular vote
Voter participation keeps falling
We destroy ACORN
We bail out bankers in financial crises
We fuck up and ignore COVID
So how’s that “lesser evil” going for you? How’s that “kicking the can down the road” going for you?
From my pov that is the ml stance as they have a very defeatist attitude. Particularly around voting.
How fucking ironic. You literally wrote off the Palestinian’s struggle as doomed to justify voting for the Democrats. And you’re calling MLs defeatists?
You just said the alternative to voting democrat was doing nothing. That’s like a picture perfect example of defeatism.
In your eyes “Hey let’s see if we can’t improve things somewhat!” is defeatist while “You have to vote for the democrats, no matter how much they suck, you have to, you cannot do anything else, there is nothing else to be done” is not defeatist. Look in the mirror, please.
Funny how, as soon as an alternative is suggested, it has to solve everything immediately, but voting for genociders does not hold the same requirement.
We went from democrats covering their ears at the sound of protesters for Palestine, the democratic nominee yelling “I am speaking” against protesters, the democratic president siccing cops on peaceful protesters, to democrats having to at least pretend like they give a shit, if not outright actually give a shit. Receiving money from AIPAC is now a black mark, supporting Israel is one likewise in most areas. This would not have happened without Kamala losing. Your position seems to be “I’m sorry if the problem isn’t immediately solved by doing one thing, then what does it matter?” which is very fitting for someone who puts all their faith into voting, I suppose.
We are far closer to the genocide ending than we ever were under Biden. There is far more popular and international resistance towards Israel. This would not have happened if the democrats just got to keep on truckin’
One could ask the reverse however. Your side argues for the democrats as “harm reduction”, so lets look at the reduced harm we’ve gotten for voting for the “lesser evil” over the decades:
So how’s that “lesser evil” going for you? How’s that “kicking the can down the road” going for you?
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How fucking ironic. You literally wrote off the Palestinian’s struggle as doomed to justify voting for the Democrats. And you’re calling MLs defeatists?
You just said the alternative to voting democrat was doing nothing. That’s like a picture perfect example of defeatism.
In your eyes “Hey let’s see if we can’t improve things somewhat!” is defeatist while “You have to vote for the democrats, no matter how much they suck, you have to, you cannot do anything else, there is nothing else to be done” is not defeatist. Look in the mirror, please.